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  "this is a regime where everything that isn't forbidden is compulsory"

  by cofty in

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  anthony daniels, a psychiatrist and writer whose pen name is theodore dalrymple wrote this line about north korea.. does it remind you of anything?.

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  It's been said here before: "The Watchtower is the North Korea of religions."
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  So "The Quiet One" now has a problem with my domestic abuse article...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry about this, i generally don't like confrontation of any kind, but a situation has arisen on another thread, and i thought i would give the quiet one the opportunity to explain her reasons as to why she dislikes my article on domestic abuse without hijacking someone else's thread in the process.. the sad thing is, i had an entire thread devoted to publicizing this article and receiving feedback, but he/she chose not to say anything on that thread, but have a go at me on an entirely unrelated thread.. anyway, i'm copying and pasting the whole conversation so that both sides of the argument can be seen.. a copy of the offending article can be found here: "'won without a word' - at what cost?".

  i'm not necessarily asking anyone else to join in the discussion, although you are welcome to do so if you wish to add anything.

  the purpose of this thread is to give "the quiet one" the platform that he/she evidently craves to criticize the article in public (i have offered to discuss this over pms, but that offer hasn't been taken).. so anyway, sorry about this folks... (sigh).

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  "I'm only suggesting that people should base their accusations on what is printed, not what they think was meant.. "

  I wish I had a nickel for everytime an elder said "brother, they can't say that openly; you have to read between the lines." They said more than enough in printed innuendo about the purported significance of 1975 to unleash a torrent of independent -- ostensibily unauthorized -- conjecture, from the platform and in private conversations, often by senior society representives, all of which they scarcely disavowed and in some cases openly encouraged.

  Let me ask: if you let your dog off the leash and he goes on a biting rampage in your neighborhood can you morally disavow responsibility for the consequences?
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  New rules for talk recordings?

  by discreetslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told this is the new arrangement re recordings made known only to the boe.

  can someone confirm this?.

  one congregation cd is made of meetings, assemblies & dc to pass on to publishers who want to hear it.

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  lots of "cloak & dagger" for an organization that purports to solely represent the Jesus who charged his true disciples: "what you heard whispered, preach from the housetops!" -- Matt. 10:27
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  could Jonah have survived in the belly of a whale?

  by highdose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its not like he had access to oxygen, light, fresh water or food.

  what about the digestive jucies in the belly?.

  please correct me if i'm wrong, but surely this just can't be possible?.

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  ... Then Jonah, instead of rejoicing in God's mercy in sparing Nineveh upon its repentance, got pissed and went off to sulk, only to get bonked in the head by a falling gourd.
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  Letter About Blood Doctrine

  by Bangalore in

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  2. beliefs

  letter about blood doctrine.. .

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  bangalore.

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  They would have sent a follow-up letter to the elders in any case, letterhead or not... that's their modus operandi.
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  Not just elders in Victoria who need wwc

  by Mattieu in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in reference to the comments that it should not just be the elders getting the working with children check in victoria, i just caught up with my mate who is still an elder and his 2 buddies (who were also elders), one who turned out to be the p/o (sorry, still stuck with the old lingo).

  3 elders and a so called apostate, and yes we were all drinking beers, ok, i wasnt, that nz sav blnc was too good to pass up.... the direction from bethel is that all elders/ m/s's and pioneers in victoria have to get the wwc, so its not just for elders.. the deadline for all elders, ms's and pioneers to get this check passed a few weeks ago.

  in my mates congo, there was still a few m/'s and pioneers who had not yet submitted their application yet as well as 1 elder.

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  "In the interests of transparancy?" God, that's the LEAST of their interests!! They thrive on cultivating the willful ignorance of their flock.
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  UK charity "Refuge" gives response to WT article on domestic abuse

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sure by now you are all aware of the feb 15th, 2012 study edition of the watchtower, and its outrageous experience depicting domestic violence.. as you may know, i have been looking into the matter in some detail.

  i decided to contact the uk domestic abuse charity "refuge".

  they indicated their concern towards the article and offered to help in any way they could.

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  " The Society's approach to domestic abuse is directly linked with its approach to divorce, and the sanctity of marriage. Put simply, the Society is more interested in preserving the sanctity of marriage than they are in preserving human life."

  May I suggest also that this approach is a variant of their policies on child molestation; it's another instance whereby the WT seeks to shield the sociological problems ("dirty laundry") of their flock from the gaze of the general public and away from the courts in yet another bid to prop up their claims of being the "happiest people on earth."

  Kudos to you Cedars; nice going.
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  Just How Self-Centered Are JWs?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just received a brochure from a midwestern travel agency operated by jws that specialized in bethel tours.

  i found this excerpt, relating to one item on the itinerary, as visit toe the holoccaust museum in washington quite interesting: "the museum is dedicated to presenting the story of how more than 30,000 jehovah's witnesses were persecuted by the nazis.

  apparently the tour operators consider the slaugther of more than 6 million jews unworthy of mention!

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  ... nor do they ever mention that including that the Nazi lumped a significant number of the Russelite Bible Student "standfasters" who split over the WT over the Rutherford takeover with the the JWs in the "Purple Triangle" category.
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  Just How Self-Centered Are JWs?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just received a brochure from a midwestern travel agency operated by jws that specialized in bethel tours.

  i found this excerpt, relating to one item on the itinerary, as visit toe the holoccaust museum in washington quite interesting: "the museum is dedicated to presenting the story of how more than 30,000 jehovah's witnesses were persecuted by the nazis.

  apparently the tour operators consider the slaugther of more than 6 million jews unworthy of mention!

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  I just received a brochure from a midwestern travel agency operated by JWs that specialized in Bethel tours. I found this excerpt, relating to one item on the itinerary, as visit toe the Holoccaust Museum in Washington quite interesting: "The museum is dedicated to presenting the story of how more than 30,000 Jehovah's Witnesses were persecuted by the Nazis."

  Apparently the tour operators consider the slaugther of more than 6 million Jews unworthy of mention! Not even a footnote....
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  Incredible document on the Watchtower and cognitive dissonance

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recieved an awesome document in my youtube messages yesterday.

  the person giving it told me it was the best description of the experience he had went through which involved entering and exiting the watchtower over the course of only a few years.. .

  written by jamie boyden [<--not sabastious] sunday, 08 february 2009 14:19. .

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  " A third condition limiting an examination of the Watchtower cult during the decisional conflict stage is the very lack of information available to investigate. There is a lot of literature, books, tapes, and tracts exposing the teachings and history of the JWs, but it is often not as easy to find it at the exact time the initiate needs it.''

  No longer, thanks to the internet and to sites like this!